Bramley Parish Council Minutes - 21st November 2017

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Minutes of the Meeting of the Council


Tuesday 21st November 2017

Time:                                    7.30pm


Bramley Room, Bramley Village Hall



Cllr Durrant (Chair)

Cllr Tomblin (Vice-Chair)


Cllr Bell (Vice-Chair)

Cllr Flooks


Cllr Capel

Cllr DiMascio


Cllr Ansell


In attendance:

Maxta Thomas (Clerk)

Cllr Rowland (Borough)


Cllr Robinson (Borough)

Cllr Vaughan (County)


Inspector Paul Pressley – Hants Police

Inspector Luke Aslam – Hants Police


Tom Payne - BDBC

Barry Jordan-Davis - HCC


11 members of the public



Cllr Marshall






Apologies for Absence



As listed above.



Declarations of Interest






Minutes of the Last Parish Council Meeting



The minutes of the meeting held on 17th October 2017 were unanimously agreed to be a true and accurate record.  The minutes were signed by the Chairman.




Matters arising



Air quality monitoring – Cllr Ansell gave a brief update.  Nitrous dioxide levels are showing as being much higher towards the end of a week.  Average levels are over 36-40 micrograms per cubic meter, which is very close to the limit of acceptable levels.  Cllr Ansell noted that lower temperatures tend to mean higher chemical levels.  Levels in Bramley are currently comparable to urban areas in London.  More data is required.



Open Forum



Cllr Durrant invited questions from the public.

  • A resident asked about council tax – does it include refuse collection.  If so, why are travellers at Cufaude Lane having their bins emptied regularly – do they pay a contribution?  Cllr Robinson replied that they don’t pay for the service – he clarified that the BDBC policy is to clear rubbish immediately than leave it to stack up.  Collection is done at sites such as this as part of a community service.
  • A resident asked why travellers at Cufaude lane appear to have utility supplies such as electricity and water.  Cllr Robinson stated that planning permission is not related to the supply of utilities.  Therefore BDBC have little control on whether utilities are installed.





Planning & Development



New Applications & report from Planning Committee - Cllr Flooks ran through the report from the Planning Committee meeting of 17th November (appendix A).  The following matters arising were discussed by the full Council:

  • 17/03745/ROC – Razors Farm Cufaude Lane Chineham

                Variation of Condition 1 and removal of condition 7 of                 15/02513/RES to remove the LEAP area from phase 1

                No objections unanimously agreed, provided there is no loss of                 overall amenities.  Cllr Tomblin noted that the lighting plan is                 missing important info missing.  Clerk to query.

  • 16/04519/FUL – Upper Cufaude Farm

                The PC originally had no objections to the above planning                 application, subject to the view from English Heritage, who have                 come back with no objections. 

                The planning agent for the application has distributed a paper to                 councillors noting difficulties with Local Plan policy SS6 (e) and its                 intent to stop unacceptable development and damage to the                 countryside.  He has requested Bramley PC to consider submitting a                 statement to BDBC actively supporting the application.

                Whilst the Planning Committee unanimously voted to maintain the                 ‘no objections’ status, members felt that actively supporting the                 application would be inconsistent with the PC’s approach to other                 small scale developments outside the settlement boundary.                  Therefore, Planning Committee members recommended that the                 issue be considered by full Council. 

                After some discussion it was decided to uphold the Planning                 Committee decision unanimously.  Therefore, ‘no objections’ will                 still stand, but with no further statement from Bramley Parish                 Council.
























Approvals/Refusals/Pending (see appendix A) – these were noted.  



17/00936/FUL – Land North of Sherfield Road – UPDATE (see appendix A)

The Clerk noted that she has sent in Parish Council objections to the further amendments to this application.  There is no indication as yet of when a decision is likely.  The waste water model is to be in by the end of this week.  The Urban Officer has noted that site is cramped. 



15/02682/OUT – Land South of The Street (see appendix A)  - Cllr Durrant noted issues with street lighting – the development will be in an area where there is little street lighting at present.  This needs to be examined when the reserved matters planning application is submitted.



Update on Planning Enforcements

17/00206/ADV - Bramley Post Office Sherfield Road Bramley – the Clerk has chased the planning officer, with no response to date.  She will continue to chase.

17/00942/FUL - Land Adjacent To The Oaks Cufaude Lane Bramley – the Clerk has chased enforcement officer with regards to the status of this site.  She has received no response to date, and will continue to chase.

17/00449/RET - Land To The Rear Of 29 And 30 Farriers Close Bramley – the appeal for this application is still ongoing and is awaiting a visit to site the Inspectors.  The ward councillors have brought the issue up with BDBC Property Services, as there has been no approach from residents about purchasing land.

Councillors noted their dissatisfaction with the length of time taken by BDBC to deal with such issues.  Clerk to draft letter of complaint re BDBC enforcement issues.















S.106 Allocation – a response has been received from BDBC officers, and a meeting will be set up shortly to discuss both specific and general issues with s.106 allocation.  This has been supported by a request for clarification from Cllr Rowland. 




Parish Environment



Unlawful  encampments update

  • Campbell Court – this encampment has now been moved on and out of the Bramley area.
  • Ordinance Road – this encampment has now been moved on, but has only gone as far as Bramley Green Road.
  • Bramley Green Road - the encampment at the MOD site has moved back to Bramley Green Road.   An existing section 77 notice to quit was still in force at the time the encampment moved back in, and HCC are looking at prosecuting the residents at the encampment for this breach.  A second section 77 notice to quit was served, effective from 8th November.  This has not been complied with, and HCC are taking legal action for this to be enforced – this will take two to three weeks.  The police have no power to act until the necessary legal proceedings have been undertaken, as the encampment is on what is technically the highway, and is therefore not covered by their powers under section 61 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. 

Cllr Durrant welcomed representatives from BDBC, HCC and Hampshire Police.    

Inspector Paul Pressley summarised current police protocol.  He noted that all incidents do cross his desk each day, and asked that all ASB incidents are reported via 101.  It is important that the police get as full a picture as possible of what is happening in the Parish. 

A resident noted that pony and traps are being raced in Cufaude Lane after dark – should this be reported?  Inspector Pressley confirmed that it should, each and every time such incidents occur. 

Legislation – Inspector Pressley noted the current legislation for unauthorised encampments, and noted that the police have different powers from landowners.  He made the following points:

  • It must first be established who the landowner is, and whether the land is a highway or not. 
  • The police cannot use police powers if the encampment is on a highway, as at Bramley Green Road. 
  • To use police powers, one of three criteria must apply:
    • 6 or more vehicles at the site
    • Proven criminal damage
    • Threats or abuse towards the landowner or the landowners’ agent. 
  • Landowners have to ask travellers to vacate the site.  

The Police will use powers where criteria exist. 

A resident asked if encampments can be moved on to specific sites.  Inspector Pressley noted difficulties in locating such pitches. 

Barry Jordan-Davis, the HCC Gypsy Liaison Officer , works closely with police.  His role covers all HCC land including Highways. He made the following points:

  • Barry or one of his team will try to get to an encampment on the day it arrives and certainly within 48 hours. 
  • As landowners, HCC have a duty to carry out health and welfare enquiries of the occupants.  Once these are completed satisfactorily, then a ‘notice to quit’ will be served. 
  • Barry noted the need to stick to the letter of the law. 
  • Once the ‘notice to quit’ is ignored, the issue is passed to legal services, and a court date is obtained.  This can take up to 10 working days and sometimes longer. 
  • Once a court order is obtained the encampment can be moved on, after a summons to Court has been served.
  • Experience shows that encampments tend to move on just before or on the day of a court hearing. 
  • Travellers cannot be stopped from re-visiting a site completely.   A section 77 notice prevents return for three months, but as shown recently, this is often ignored.  If it is ignored, it then becomes a criminal offence.  This must go through the courts for prosecution.
  • Even with a court prosecution, the maximum period preventing return is 6 months. 
  • Section 77 – once breached, there is no police power attached to it allowing them to act, hence landowners need to go through court to prosecute. 
  • Barry echoed Inspector Pressley’s statement on the importance of reporting all incidents to the relevant authority, including Police, Borough, County, and Highways. 

The following questions were asked:

  • Is part of the Gypsy liaison role to educate travellers in getting on with their neighbours?  Barry confirmed that it is. 
  • Can travellers be charged a fee for being on council land?  Barry stated that there is not a fee, and that such a fee would be very difficult to enforce. 
  • Is it illegal to start a fire in the middle of a Highway?  Barry confirmed that it is an offence, but this must be balanced against the fact that there are often children on site, and the most that courts can do is levy a fine. 
  • How should the clean-up operation be handled once an encampment moves on?  Fly tipping is enforced by BDC – Tom Payne noted that evidence needs to be in place to enforce fly tipping fines. 
  • Can CCTV be used in vulnerable areas?  Inspector Pressely noted that the Police would not get authority for CCTV against fly tipping, although local authorities might. Tom Payne noted that this has not been successful to date. 

Cllr Durrant noted that not all ASB stems from the unauthorised encampments, which is why it is important to report all ASB via 101.  If it isn’t logged, then police cannot do anything.  Incidents can also be reported via email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..  Residents noted that 101 are not always reliable. 

Cllr Durrant recorded his thanks to the Police, Barry Jordan-Davis and Tom Payne for their input to the meeting.

Bramley Green Road – Cllr Durrant noted that a gate was installed at this site, but did not have an adequate locking mechanism.  Once the encampment is moved on a new lock will be installed, and other temporary defences will be installed until something more permanent can be put in place. 

Cllr Durrant stated that Bramley Parish Council has no jurisdiction to act unless an encampment is on PC land.  However, the PC has and will continue to consolidate resident complaints and liaise with relevant authorities to get such issues resolved. 

Cllr Bell noted that Parish Council expenditure on protection, legal expenses, etc on this issue been in excess of £12K so far this year.   














Fencing at Yew Tree Close

Cllr Durrant stated that the cut-through at this location has been a source of issues for some time now.  The following measures have been agreed with BDBC:

  • The playground will be removed, as the equipment is not up to modern safety specifications and there are many other good play areas in the area. 
  • Old foliage is being removed, and other landscaping is being carried out. 
  • The cut-through is being temporary closed off, with a view to making it permanent. 

Hopefully, these measures will help alleviate ASB incidents in the area.  Cllr Durrant noted that BDBC are working closely with the Parish Council on the issue. 





Parish Lengthsman update – issues with fallen leaves on pavements in the Parish have been highlighted.  The Parish Lengthsman will be clearing the pavement on Sherfield Road, between Bramley Green Road and Campbell Road, at some point this week.  He has investigated hiring a pavement sweeper for a day; the cost of this would be £140+VAT for delivery, £180+VAT per day for hire, and then fuel costs would be additional.  It has been suggested that the cost could be split across several councils if others councils feel the service would be useful.   Clerk to take forward.









Clerk’s report & Administration



IT Project update (see appendix B)

Cllr Ansell noted the HALC Parish Council of the Year 2017, which has been given to Bramley as a result of its work on the IT project.

He is hoping for full recommendations for the December meeting. 




Cllr Ansell


Update on defibrillators – the Clerk reported that a defibrillator was due to be installed at the One Stop shop last weekend.  The defibrillator at the Village Hall will be installed as soon as the electrician can be organised.  Finally, Bramley now has a Community Responder based in the village.



Budget – current year review and next year planning – the Clerk has distributed a draft budget to Councillors.  She noted that items such as the installation of the air quality monitoring system and expenditure on the IT project were not in last year’s budget, so it looks as though the PC’s spend will be above that anticipated for this year.  However, as the PC’s reserves are healthy at present, this is not an issue. 

The projected budget for next year is still very much a draft – a final decision on this will need to be made by the January meeting at the latest. 






Reports from Parish Council representatives



Allotments and Burial Ground – see appendix B. 

Tree work at allotments –Cllr Ansell noted that the application has been modified by the BDBC Tree Officer, which will incur a little more expenditure. 



Village Hall Trust –see appendix B

Cllr Durrant noted plans to expand the Village Hall, and asked Council to consider its’ position as landowners of the site.  He noted that some essential work does need to be carried out on the facilities. 



Clift Meadow Trust - Cllr Capel gave a verbal report:

New gates to be installed this week.  A footpath will be put in around the gate. 

         i.            Security at Clift Meadow – quotes have been received for security cameras in the Clift Meadow car park.  The scheme has been agreed by CMT and via email by the Parish Council.  The cost of the CCTV system will be £5,760+VAT – this will include 2 cameras and recording equipment, and an onsite monitor to view images.  Cllr Durrant proposed the expenditure, Cllr Flooks seconded, unanimously agreed.  Cllr Durrant and Clerk to take forward.








Cllr Durrant /Clerk


Education & Schools – no report. 



Police & Neighbourhood Watch – see appendix B.



Highways/Footpaths – see appendix B.

         i.            Footpaths leaflet – Cllr Ansell noted the footpaths leaflet, which needs to be printed and also placed on the website.  It needs a new foreword – Cllr Durrant to write. 



Cllr Durrant


Road Safety Project – see appendix B. 



Community Speedwatch

         i.            Review of pilot and next steps - The CSW group are actively seeking funding from various sources going forward, and have asked whether the Parish Council would be prepared to consider continuing its existing support for the group, or whether it would be willing to consider a grant towards the cost of buying a Speed Indicator Device.  Cllr Vaughan noted that the CSW scheme should apply for a County Councillors grant – he will match a grant made by the PC.  

It was unanimously agreed to give a grant of £1000 to the CSW team. 

Cllr Bell requested an update for the website – Lesley Kelly to supply. 





Borough Councillor Report - Cllr Robinson gave a verbal report:

  • Issues re deployment of political assistants at borough – proposal to redeploy assistants is being opposed by some groups. 

Cllr Ansell noted BDBC proposals for future Parish Council elections to be paid for by the parishes.  This is causing some controversy in the parishes. 



County Councillor report - Cllr Vaughan gave the following verbal report:

  • He noted his written briefing note on the HCC financial strategy. 
  • He noted the recent death of Ken Thorburn.  Ken was recently made and Alderman of the County, along with Keith Chapman.
  • ‘Cut your engines’ signs will be up by mid-December.





Chairman’s report

         i.            Parish Council newsletter – Cllr Durrant noted his disappointment in the lack of volunteers for newsletter articles.  The newsletter will now not go out before Christmas – will try again in the New Year. 

       ii.            Cllr Ansell suggested an article for the Parish magazine – Cllr Ansell to write. 





Cllr Ansell


Consultation documents requiring consideration



BDBC Statement of Community Involvement – this consultation was discussed briefly at the Planning Committee meeting.  Cllr Tomblin has read through the consultation and made the following comments:

Section 5.6 Neighbourhood plans.

This document has lengthy descriptions of how BDBC will support the construction of a NDP with advice and organisational initiatives. However there is no comment on the weight that an NDP will have in the planning determination phase given that the document states that an NDP is an “alternative (to a Local Plan) means of developing polices at a local level “.

Section 5.15 Face-To Face engagement

Methods: - Exhibitions, group meetings. No discussion around feedback and how those involved can examine findings and confirmation that their comments were logged – and BDBC view on those points raised.

Section 6.21 Planning application determination

“There is an opportunity for parties to present their representation to Members at the DC meeting” 

This is limited to all objectors sharing 4 mins – this is very restrictive and surely contrary to the spirit of consultation & involvement? It could be better managed.

It was unanimously agreed that these comments should be submitted to BDBC.  Clerk to action.





















Grant Applications



Bramley Village Hall Trustees – fire doors installation

The Clerk has distributed details of this grant request – £1520 for the installation of new fire doors.  This will bring the fire doors in the hall up to current safety standards.  Cllr Durrant proposed the motion and Cllr DiMascio seconded.  Unanimously agreed.  Clerk to process.









Payments and reconciliation approval (see appendix C)

The Clerk noted the payments on the reconciliation, with particular reference to the following:

  • Payment of a donation of £100 to the Royal British Legion was agreed by email and now needs to be ratified.  This was unanimously agreed.
  • Payment is due for CiLCA training for the Clerk.  She confirmed that she is now booked onto the mentoring sessions in the New Year, and that payment will be due for these in January.
  • A deposit is due for the headstone work agreed in October.
  • Invoices have been received for emergency plumbing work at Clift Meadow, and for door repair for the Pavilion.  Payment of these was unanimously agreed.
  • All other payments are as expected.

It was unanimously agreed to approve the payments for November – Clerk to process.











Acknowledgement of Receipts – (see appendix B)

Receipts were noted.  The Clerk noted that the VAT claim submitted in October has now been received. 



Date of Next meeting



The next meeting will be held on Tuesday 12th December 2017. 



Resolution to exclude press and public from items that may require discussion of possible legal and financial proceedings 



Confidential Items





The meeting closed at 9.43pm


Signed:                 ………………………………………………………………….      Date:………………………………………


Appendix A – Planning


 Draft Minutes of the Meeting of the Planning Committee


Wednesday 15th November 2017




Bramley Room, Bramley Village Hall


Cllr Flooks (Chair)

Cllr Tomblin


Cllr Bell

Cllr DiMascio

In Attendance:

Maxta Thomas (Clerk)

1 members of the public


Cllr Venetia Rowland (Borough)

Cllr Nick Robinson (Borough)






Apologies for Absence



As listed above.



Declarations of Interest






Minutes of the last Planning Committee Meeting



The minutes of the meeting held on 13th September 2017 were unanimously agreed to be a true and accurate record.  The minutes were signed by the Chairman.




Matters arising – Cllr Tomblin noted that builders are starting work on site at Razors Farm earlier in the morning than they should.  He has raised the issue with BDBC. 



Planning Applications



New Applications

  1. T/00447/17/TPO - 7 Oakmead Bramley

T1 Oak: reduce limbs that encroach over property (conservatory) by 1.5-2m back to good growth points

Councillors felt that there was not enough information to make an informed decision.  Clerk to enquire if the tree is endangering the property, and also if it is diseased.  Clerk also to point out that the NP highlights various trees as being part of the vista in the village. 

  1. 17/03717/VLA - The Lodge Cufaude Courtyard Cufaude Lane Bramley

Discharge of legal agreement to remove the tie which restricts the garages/store approved under BDB/54128 being used and/or sold as a separate unit of accommodation

No comments unanimously agreed.  Clerk to process.

  1. 17/03624/LDEU - The Lodge Cufaude Courtyard Cufaude Lane Bramley

Application for Certificate of Lawfulness for the continued use of The Lodge as a single dwelling house (Use Class C3)

No comments unanimously agreed.

  1. 17/03248/RES - Little Bowlings Goddards Lane Sherfield-on-Loddon

Reserved matters application for details of access, appearance, landscape, layout and scale, pursuant to outline planning permission 15/01460/OUT, for the erection of 4 no. 5 bed dwellings, office building and new access

It was unanimously agreed to fully support comments made by Sherfield on Loddon Parish Council, and by the BDBC Principal Conservation Officer.  Clerk to process.


  1. Other new applications

17/03692/HSE - 5 German Road Bramley

Conversion of half of garage to additional living space

Objections based on loss of parking to the area unanimously agreed.  Clerk to process.

17/03745/ROC - Razors Farm Cufaude Lane Chineham

Variation of condition 1 and removal of condition 7 of 15/02513/RES to remove the LEAP area from phase 1

To be considered at full council when more documentation available. 

17/03725/HSE - 1 The Maltings Bramley

Conversion of garage to living accommodation

No objections, but comment that parking spaces should be carefully considered.  Unanimously agreed.  Clerk to process.

T/00472/17/TCA - Malden House The Street Bramley

1 Scots pine: fell

1 Spruce: fell

No objections unanimously agreed.  Clerk to process.



































Approvals/Refusals/Pending – these were noted.   See appendix A. 



Update on Land North of Sherfield Road (17/00936/FUL) – the review on waste water in the Parish is awaited from Thames Water.  The Parish Council have requested that the BDBC planning officer does not make a decision until the review is complete at the end of November.  The planning officer has contacted Thames Water to find out if they have any reason to delay any decision.  Cllr Bell to take forward.

Cllr Bell has put in a personal objection to amendments. 

Clerk to submit PC objections to BDBC.







Update on Land South of The Street (15/02682/OUT – the Parish Council have met with representatives of Taylor Wimpey regarding the application.  The developer seems keen to work within the framework set out in the Neighbourhood Plan, and took on board various comments and suggestions made by the PC, particularly with reference to the appearance of houses.

Cllr Flooks noted a letter from a resident – Clerk to respond as per Cllr Flook’s written draft response.  Unanimously agreed.

Clerk to ask developers for report on the public session on earlier in the week. 







Local Plan housing policy in relation to Upper Cufaude Farm (16/04519/FUL) – the Parish Council originally had no objections, subject to the view from English Heritage, who have come back with no objections.

The planning agent for the application, Edward Dawson, explained that they have hit difficulties with Local Plan policy SS6 (e) and its intent to stop unacceptable development and damage to the countryside.  He asked whether the Parish Council would be willing to consider submitting a statement to BDBC in support of the application.

Councillors noted issues with consistency with other small scale developments outside the settlement boundary.  Mr Dawson noted that each application should be judged on its own merits.  He does not believe that such a statement would be setting a precedent. 

It was unanimously agreed that ‘no objections’ should still stand, but that an active statement of support is unlikely to be agreed when amended plans are submitted.    The issue was recommended to full council for a final decision. 

Amended plans will be submitted by the agent to BDBC. 












Update on Planning Enforcements



17/00206/ADV - Bramley Post Office Sherfield Road

Display of 1 no. externally illuminated Fascia Sign and 3 no. window graphics

The Clerk has again chased this issue with the planning officer, but has received no reply.  She will continue to chase.






 17/00942/FUL - Land Adjacent To The Oaks Cufaude Lane

Change of use of site as a private gypsy site for one family comprising a mobile home, utility room and touring caravan

The Clerk has again chased this issue with the enforcement officer at BDBC, but has received no reply as the officer in question is on leave until next week.  She will chase for a response for the PC meeting on 21st November. 







17/00449/RET – 29 -30 Farriers Close, Bramley

Change of use of open space land to land within residential land (Retrospective)

The appeal for this application is still ongoing and is awaiting a visit to site by the Inspectors. 




Minchens Lane issues



Completion of s.106 obligations – Persimmon and BDBC are currently trying to establish exactly who is responsible for carrying out the Clift Meadow car park improvements – the issue is currently with BDBC for a decision.  Persimmon has stated that they are happy to do the work on behalf of BDBC if necessary. 

It also appears that work on the Clift Surgery car park will begin soon, although this needs to be checked.

Clerk to investigate legal redress re slippage of s.106 obligations. 

Cllr Flooks to draft an email/letter to Sue Tarvit and Jon Bishop for an update on s.106 tasks.






 Cllr Flooks


Highways issues – Concerns have been raised with Highways and Persimmon about the quality of finish on the recent highway work at Minchens Lane, and also about the junction into the new development.

Responses from planning officers and Highways would indicate that work on the road has not been completed as yet – engineers had delays over the summer which meant the work could not be completed.






Draft Statement of Community Involvement



This consultation from BDBC deals with community engagement with regards to planning consultations.

Link on website.

Cllr Tomblin to read through and recommend a response. 



Cllr Tomblin


Date of Next Meeting

The next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 6th December.







16/03052/FUL & 16/03053/LBC - Beech Farm Lane End Bramley

Works of restoration to external elevations, roof and new entrance porch, and internal alterations to Beech Farm Cottages for use as two dwellings. Creation of a parking area to the west of the building. Demolition of dilapidated wooden shed/store to the south of the building





17/02659/VLA - Land At Middle Barn Minchens Lane Bramley Hampshire

Discharge of Section 106 agreement relating to planning permission BDB/48984



No Comments


17/02805/HSE - Patricias Cottage Bramley Corner Bramley

Erection of detached garage to include first floor study




17/02830/HSE - 4 Tudor Close Bramley

Erection of single storey rear extension following demolition of existing conservatory



No objections


17/02957/HSE - 8 The Mews Bramley

Erection of single storey side/rear wrap around conservatory. Conversion of garage and erection of link extension



No objections


17/03072/HSE - Ashgrove The Street Bramley

Conversion of existing garage to habitable room


No objections


Pending Applications*


16/04519/FUL - Upper Cufaude Farmhouse Cufaude Lane Bramley

Erection of 2 no. dwellings

No objections, subject to Heritage view


17/00206/ADV - Bramley Post Office Sherfield Road Bramley

Display of 1 no. externally illuminated Fascia Sign and 3 no. window graphics



17/00936/FUL - Land To The North Of Sherfield Road Bramley

Residential development of 55 dwellings including affordable housing with associated access, highways works, drainage work (SUDS), public open space and other associated infrastructure



17/01597/LBC - Sherborne House Bullsdown Farm German Road Bramley

Installation of bi-fold doors

No objections


17/02302/RES - Razors Farm Cufaude Lane Chineham

Reserved matters application for details of appearance, landscaping, layout and scale of 131 dwellings with associated infrastructure, landscaping forming phase 3 pursuant to outline permission BDB/77341



17/00942/FUL - Land Adjacent To The Oaks Cufaude Lane Bramley

Change of use of site as a private gypsy site for one family comprising a mobile home, utility room and touring caravan


Appeal lodged – non-determination


*Objections/no objections listed are the decision of Bramley Parish Council only, and do not reflect any submissions placed by members of the public or other bodies with Basingstoke & Deane Borough Council.


Appendix B – Briefing Notes



Plots currently under lease agreement

  • X2 full plots
  • X16 half plots 

Total plots available for lease -            

  • No available plots – Waiting list is 7–
  • NP Tree Management has processed the Parish Application for tree works in the Allotment area and awaits Borough Council clearance. However BDBC have provided some feedback and suggestions to the proposed work.
  • The 3-bay composter is full again only 4 months after it was cleared back to the compost level. We need to think of a solution.

Castle Water, water supplier to the allotments, is seeking to charge the Parish Council for waste water removal from the allotments.

Actions:         Commence tree surgery work along path to improve light across allotments.  

Complete Wastewater abatement application.


Cllr Durrant attended the VH trustees November meeting.

Phil Lewis (Chairman) did not attend owing a hip operation.  Cllr Durrant sent best wishes from the PC.

Finances - Cash flow projections look OK but any unexpected cost could cause an issue. 

Apparently the pricing rationalisation is not yet complete. Next March looks like when the final adjustment(s) will be made.

There will still be a discount structure so future PC attendees will need to keep an eye on this as it finalises.

There are a number of maintenance issues arising.

  1. Awaiting invoice for repairs to the skylight in the "committee room". This may need to be replaced - watch this space!
  2. Very important.  There s a need to install/upgrade 2 fire doors. The cost is in the order of 1600 plus VAT.  I suggested that they raise a grant application. I do feel that we as landlords need to ensure fire safety is at its best.
  3. Overhanging branches need to be removed from the car park. Quote accepted and now awaiting a start date.
  4. Overhanging branches close to the high voltage cabling need to be cut back SSE (power) will undertake the work.
  5. Reduction in width and height of the boundary hedge is necessary but not urgent cost up to 800 GBP
  6. A few minor bits of work ranging from guttering to electrics and a decision on the shed - repair or replace?

PC report

  1. Touched car park security. There are concerns and I explained what we are doing at Clift Meadow with cameras.  There was an interest but I said we would see how Clift Meadow works out before proposing the same for the VH.
  2. Audio visual digital kit.  I confirmed that the PC own it and will insure it.  Use beyond the film club would be considered on a case by case basis by the PC.
  3. The lost title deed "replacement" is in progress.  I do feel as landowners that we should hold that and at least contribute to any costs. PC need to discuss.

Bookings are looking good at the moment.

There is some conflict between the dance classes and for example the badminton club about the floor surface. Some clubs want grippy and others want slippy.

The question of expansion plans was raised.  There does not appear be consensus at the moment with the exception that work is needed in the toilet zone. I guess we will have wait and see. It does strike me that as the land owners we should be more involved and vocal on the matter.

Next meeting is December 4th.  Cllr Ansell to attend.



No written report received.



No written report received.



Burglaries - Burglaries are a Local Beat Priority across the whole of Basingstoke. 2 reported dwelling burglaries reported over this month. One burglary was a domestic related burglary and the other relates to unknown offenders being disturbed breaking into a rural property, nothing was stolen.

Please mark your valuables in some way with your post code or take a picture of them and any distinguishing marks just in case they are recovered by Police, then we will be able to return them to you. 

Anti Social Behaviour - There have been 8 reports of ASB this month. Now the weather is getting colder, I suspect these will lower.

If you suffer from ASB and you are a tenant of social housing then you will need to report these incidents to your housing officer before you contact Police. If the offender is also in social housing accommodation then your housing association will have more powers to tackle it than we do. If your housing officer believes Police intervention will help then they will contact us.

I would like to encourage all residents to report any incidents of anti social behaviour to us on 101, or if you are a resident of social housing and your issues are with a neighbour also living in social housing accommodation, please report any incidents to your local housing officer, if the problem then persists then your Housing Officer will contact me. Please do report ASB because if it doesn’t get reported then I will not know that it’s happening and therefore I will not be able to focus my patrol time efficiently.

Suspicious Incidents - There have also been 13 suspicious vehicle/ person reports. Nothing of these reports indicate anything to be concerned over. None of these reports have any links to other crimes that have been reported.

If you see anything you consider being suspicious please call us on 101 to report it. If there are any units free at the time of the call, they will attend. I am impressed of the detail people giving to us. The majority of the suspicious vehicles that have been called in to us have been with a full registration! It helps us out a lot when we have this line of enquiry as we can normally locate the owner and ask them what they were doing.

Other - As you are likely aware, we are receiving lots of reports of travellers on Bramley Green Road.

Hampshire County Council’s Gypsy Traveller Liaison Officer visited the site and served a new Sec 77 Notice to Quit. If they fail to comply then HCC will need to apply to court for an eviction order.

As the layby is part of the Highway, police powers under Sec 61 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act CANNOT be used (Sec 61 can only be considered on any land not being part of a Highway) - this is why HCC are involved and why a Sec 77 was previously served.

Monthly Crime Stats

ASB – 8                                                           Assault – 4                                           Burglary Dwelling – 2

Burglary non-Dwelling – 0                      Criminal Damage – 1                       Driving Complaint – 4    

Drink Driving – 0                                         Drug offences – 0                             Missing Person – 1

Offensive Weapon – 1                             Public Order offences – 2              Road Traffic Collision – 0

Suspicious Incidents – 13                        Theft – 3                                              Theft from Vehicle – 1                   

Theft of Vehicle – 1                                   Theft of Pedal Cycle – 0                  Other - 1


Emergency - As always, please can I ask all residents to report any suspicious persons, vehicles or incidents using the 101 telephone number; please only ring 999 if it is a genuine emergency. An easy guide on which number to use is this:

  • Is the incident in progress and is there a risk of injury or damage to property? – 999
  • Has the incident already happened and there is no longer any risk? – 101
  • Anything else we need to know about? – 101


No new issues reported

  • Explore options for path linking Sherfield-on-Loddon to Bramley Parish as per NDP.
  • Leaf clearing identified areas for Lengthsman scheme.


Full breakdown of Air Quality results for September & October will be provided at the November Parish Council meeting.   One of the sensors has failed within the device and needs to be replaced; we have received the new sensor.


Network Rail will not release permissive rights for any path across their land. 

Investigation into the Path 11 ‘cinder track’ has confirmed that the route is across the car park and at no point enters the Network Rail land. The study has raised an issue in that the width of the path 11 is detailed at 10 feet. So, a change to the detail of the path will be required.

HCC have provided the full detailed design study for the junction improvement, PC to review and comment.

  • HCC to provide update against design programme
  • Parish Council to provide feedback / comment on Junction Improvement,



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The Bramley Parish council has been awarded by HALC Parish Council of the year for IT strategy, I will collect the award from BDBC on Tuesday evening prior to the PCM.

Within the next step of the IT upgraded plan for the Parish Council it is recommended that a site be sourced.

Shared with my briefing notes I have sourced a single source supplier for Web hosting / management.

Migration to a word press, templated site would ease current support mechanism and separation of Web traffic from email traffic.

Maxta and I met with ABA Associates last week to review and discuss proposals for Web / Email support.

Chris raised a number of questions and ABA has responded to most concerns favourably.

  • Source of hosted service for Parish web address
  • Migration of existing Web content to wordpress template
  • Migration of Councillors’ email address to
  • Source of dedicated IT platform for councillors’
  • Seek a 2nd quote for Web/email support.



Below is a composite table of Speedwatch results from April to October 2017.

(Click on the above image to open)

We have asked if we can borrow Silchester's other SID, which can be placed without any volunteers in attendance.  Our presence in high viz jackets tends to have the desired effect of slowing people down (which can be seen when you look at the total number of vehicles versus the number actually recorded at 35mph and over). Lesley has met with Bob Carr from Four Lanes Trust with a view to the Trust supporting us.

We have 3 options:

  1. Submit an application for a donation from the Four Lanes Trust in November. Maximum donation could be £1,000 – however, the Trust would prefer for any moneys donated to be used immediately and as we currently do not have the remainder necessary to purchase a Speed Indictor Device (SID) our application would likely be rejected.
  2. Defer application until March 2018, by which time we may have secured more funding to enable us to purchase the SID with support from Four Lanes Trust.
  3. Submit an application based on renting the SID from Silchester.

A decision has yet to be met by the Committee. Would Bramley PC consider supporting us with a donation of £1,750? We could put this, with the £250 already received and apply for £1,000 from Four Lanes – thus enabling us to purchase our own SID.

Forthcoming Activities

PCSO Johnson has advised that the Police systems have not been accepting new areas for deployment. He is going to check and let me know if this is now open. This means we are still unable to deploy on Bramley Road (west side of level crossing). South East Water will be carrying out work on Bramley Road for a long period of time anyway.

Continue to pursue funding from other sources. 


I would like to share with you the highlights of our ‘half-term’ financial strategy. Hampshire is facing similar problems to most other upper-tier authorities—although we are probably better placed than many, largely because of good forward planning.  For instance, Northamptonshire is contemplating a negative budget, only achieving a balance over a number of years.  Somehow, I doubt they will get permission to do that, and are likely to get a negative auditor’s report.  The last time Hampshire got a negative auditors report was back in 1997, in the days of the Lib-Lab pact, when the auditors said that the reserves were too low. 

In essence, as a result of reductions in Government grant, coupled with inflationary pressures, such as salaries and the living wage (costing an extra £50 million) and also the demographic pressures of more elderly people and more children, we have to take £140 million out of our budget by 2019-2020.  That £140 million figure was reported to us in February last year.

This further reduction comes on top of the £340 million that we have already taken out of expenditure.  This is why it is so hard now to find the savings required through back office re-organisation. 

By law, we have to set a balanced budget.  This is non-negotiable.  People tell us they are prepared to pay a bit more, so we will work on the assumption of the maximum permissible council tax increase next year, without a referendum, i.e. 1.99% plus 3% allowed for social care increases.

As an example, Children’s Services increases are related to demand pressures, social work recruitment and retention, home to school transport, and special guardianship orders.   We do not get many petitions or deputations concerning ‘looked-after children,’ but they are our statutory responsibility.  Therefore, we are planning to give Children’s Services an extra £20 million to cover these eventualities.

Commercial activity helps, and is now extensive and wide-ranging.  It contributes some £130 million to help us maintain services. 

We are also asking our officers to continue their exploration of all viable options to revise or refine proposals with regard to service continuity in the following areas:                  

  • Community transport
  • School crossing patrols
  • Waste & recycling centres

If we can find solutions, we will implement them, but we have to find the money from somewhere.

We continue our contact with Government ministers by correspondence and face-to-face meetings, and through bodies such as the Local Government Association and the County Council Network.   We are regularly stressing the difficult position our county councils are in, and that sometimes a small, even nominal payment, for a service can produce a significant income to avoid losing the provision.  For example, a £1 charge per HWRC visit would produce close to £4 million, and if there was a £10 annual charge for bus passes, then over £400,000 could be raised to fund community transport schemes.  If there was a 50p charge per journey, then that would produce £4 million, enough to keep contributions to commercial bus services that are uneconomic.  The Minister of Transport has reacted well to these ideas.  Prompted by his support, at the recent Full Council meeting on 2nd November we agreed the following additional amendment:

“Hampshire calls on the Government to permit councils responsible for administering the National Concessionary Travel Scheme, to levy modest charges on older person’s passes e.g. 50p for each use and £10 for issuing and renewing permits, with the balance of revenue raised after costs, to be used to support un-commercial, public or community transport services serving vulnerable or disadvantaged residents or       areas. “

We are also recommending the allocation of £500,000 to town and parish councils to provide pump-priming for targeted, joint initiatives aimed at improving local services.  For example, where the parish or town council may want to retain Verge Cutting, we want to be able to help by the possible purchase of equipment.

Finally, please take any scare-mongering news reports of definitive council ‘efficiency savings’ to services with a grain of salt; decisions on the proposals will be made next year prior to the Annual Budget so NOTHING has been set in stone. We are keeping an open mind and looking at every option to minimise the impact on all Hampshire residents.


Cllr Rhydian Vaughan

Member for Calleva Division.

Hampshire County Council

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